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. >>> feeling sorry for karl rove yet? he is having a lot of trouble getting republicans to listen to him these days. maybe he shouldn't have wasted 100 million of their dollars on the last election. >> will the republican change the substance of their position? >> we need to do better. >> what's going on inside the republican party? >> they've gotten spanked a couple of times. >> better conservative candidates and win. >> on the official republican side, you have karl rove. >> karl rove has a new super pac to get rid of candidate like steve king. >> some people believe to get rid of todd akin. >> the female body has ways to shut that down. >> the republican party ought to split. >> better conservative candidates and win. >> but they are not walking the walk. >> washington has to deal with its spending problem. >> the looming budget war. >> i've had enough of it. time to act. >> we've seen the republicans playing game. >> i love nancy pelosi. >> playing games with the budget. >> they recognize that the sequester is a bad i
. >>> feeling sorry for karl rove yet? he is having a lot of trouble getting republicans to listen to him these days. maybe he shouldn't have wasted 100 million of their dollars on the last election. >> will the republican change the substance of their position? >> we need to do better. >> what's going on inside the republican party? >> they've gotten spanked a couple of times. >> better conservative candidates and win. >> on the official republican...
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karl rove was allowed stay. still bush's brain has been facing heat since his super pact said they would strain the tea from the party, and determine that less in -- the new strategy was met with mixed reviews. karl rove is a total loser. money given to him might as well be thrown down the drain, wrote the donald. radio host mark levin also weighed in. >> karl rove, let me tell you something. you're despised by the grassroots, and let me tell your donors something. stop wasting your money." >> never one to sit on the sidelines, the rush-inator said some of the strong-arm tactics were backfiring. >> the newspaper article about karl rove's intention is only serving to unite the tea party in ways even now it hasn't been. right now there is a unity and an energy maybe just short of a rebirth going on." >> that's right. a rebirth of the tea party. as a reminder, a few months ago karl rove was the evil architect trying to take down president obama. way, way, way back in september obama campaign manager jim messina wro
karl rove was allowed stay. still bush's brain has been facing heat since his super pact said they would strain the tea from the party, and determine that less in -- the new strategy was met with mixed reviews. karl rove is a total loser. money given to him might as well be thrown down the drain, wrote the donald. radio host mark levin also weighed in. >> karl rove, let me tell you something. you're despised by the grassroots, and let me tell your donors something. stop wasting your...
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and so it's very easy for karl rove to saunter in and say oh, well, we'll stop this. you can't fight something with nothing. he did not back a single winning candidate last year. so what is going to happen? that is the republican party. that's why they win primaries, and the republican party has a more serious problem, which is that's 30% of the country that holds those views, maybe more or less. they can win primaries. they can never win national elections. but what is this republican establishment that rove represents? it's money people. but where are the voters within the republican party. it's not just tea party, it's the real base of the republican party whether they call themselves tea partiers or not. this is what they want. >> i was struck by how unified the reaction against rove was on the right. i mean, all of the influential -- all of the right-wing blogs that are influential enough that a liberal like me knows to go read them. >> right. >> all of them unified with being just disgusted with karl rove for having suggested this. it seems as though this is a v
and so it's very easy for karl rove to saunter in and say oh, well, we'll stop this. you can't fight something with nothing. he did not back a single winning candidate last year. so what is going to happen? that is the republican party. that's why they win primaries, and the republican party has a more serious problem, which is that's 30% of the country that holds those views, maybe more or less. they can win primaries. they can never win national elections. but what is this republican...
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a candidate that perhaps karl rove will steer away from. paul broun, the georgia congressman running to replace saxby chambliss, and "the times" pointed out today, quote, mr. broun, a physician on the house science, space, and technology committee, attracted attention last fall for saying that, quote, evolution, embryology, and the big bang theory, all of that is lies straight from the pit of hell. i'll bet that plays well in his congressional district, but my hunch is that's not playing well even in a conservative state like georgia when you're talking statewide in the general. what do you say? >> well, of course, paul is going to get a lot of competition in that primary fight. you're going to be looking at guys like tom price and tom graves who have an incredibly strong record of fiscal conservatism. i think the core of the tea party, remember, is not social issues, it's not abortion, it's not immigration, it's not these other things. it's whether or not we should spend money we don't have. it's whether or not the government should live w
a candidate that perhaps karl rove will steer away from. paul broun, the georgia congressman running to replace saxby chambliss, and "the times" pointed out today, quote, mr. broun, a physician on the house science, space, and technology committee, attracted attention last fall for saying that, quote, evolution, embryology, and the big bang theory, all of that is lies straight from the pit of hell. i'll bet that plays well in his congressional district, but my hunch is that's not...
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meanwhile, rove, karl rove, is trying to trim out the fat of tea partiers, and the fact they've weighted down the republican brand. but take a listen to rand paul's reaction. >>el well, you know, elections are a free marketplace. and everybody has a right to participate in primary elections. what i would say, though, primary elections need to not be selected by the party. so what i would say is, let's have healthy primaries, if people want to contribute on all sides, let people make voluntary contributions and we'll see which way it goes. but i think competitive primaries, you end up getting a good candidate, typically. >> jonathan, so is that in reference to the fact the tea party has used primaries to oust candidates from the right, and use the threat of putting in a tea party candidate? is that where rove is trying to head things off at the pass? >> look, in some cases, the candidate with the -- the more ideological candidate is also the better candidate. and we've seen that. rand paul won a primary in kentucky. mitch mcconnell, the whole republican party in washington thought my god,
meanwhile, rove, karl rove, is trying to trim out the fat of tea partiers, and the fact they've weighted down the republican brand. but take a listen to rand paul's reaction. >>el well, you know, elections are a free marketplace. and everybody has a right to participate in primary elections. what i would say, though, primary elections need to not be selected by the party. so what i would say is, let's have healthy primaries, if people want to contribute on all sides, let people make...
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details on a "the new york times" report that karl rove plans to make sure candidates don't become the nominees in key senate races. nbc's first read team says it is going to be ugly. >>> plus, police say they're doing, quote, everything humanly possible to end the hostage standoff in alabama that's now in the seventh day. neighbors are now even collecting birthday cards for the little boy being held in that underground bunker. he turns 6 this week. former negotiator clint van zant will join me. >>> first, officials rule out one cause of the super bowl blackout. the sudden power outage in the game's second half not caused by electrical work done in december. that was one of the theories. power company and the company that manages the super dome says it originated where a power line meets the dome's electrical system. ravens coach john harbaugh said he was stunned but proud of the team's handling of the delay. >> it was just crazy. we haven't seen that one before. it was new. changed the complexion. they did a great job and changed momentum. they swung and wasn't the lights or the power
details on a "the new york times" report that karl rove plans to make sure candidates don't become the nominees in key senate races. nbc's first read team says it is going to be ugly. >>> plus, police say they're doing, quote, everything humanly possible to end the hostage standoff in alabama that's now in the seventh day. neighbors are now even collecting birthday cards for the little boy being held in that underground bunker. he turns 6 this week. former negotiator clint...
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karl rove saying maybe electing crazy is not the best strategy for the party. have been cut down basically by members of their own party. >> we're seeing the infighting very clearly now. i think to me, at any rate, as someone who looks at all this from the policy percent penkt, what you really are seeing is a party that does really two things. one, when they don't like the numbers, they make them up, and, the other is they infight. what they're not doing and what i think colin powell in particular is pushing them towards and condi rice, some of the martyr folks are pushing them towards, that what they're needing to do is they about what the american people need to hear if their political parties right now because we have one party that's struggling to get its message through, the democrats on the economy, on emgregs, on guns. another party that's engaged in all this that you are just describing. again, i said this earlier. i'll say it again now. we are not a country at a moment where a political party can engage in this kind of enfighting. it's not what the cou
karl rove saying maybe electing crazy is not the best strategy for the party. have been cut down basically by members of their own party. >> we're seeing the infighting very clearly now. i think to me, at any rate, as someone who looks at all this from the policy percent penkt, what you really are seeing is a party that does really two things. one, when they don't like the numbers, they make them up, and, the other is they infight. what they're not doing and what i think colin powell in...
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you're karl rove. not a good guy necessarily, but a smart guy. you're haley barbour. you're chris christie, one of these thoughtful people in the republican party you can argue. how are you going to stop these people from running if fay want to? >> cash. >> how do you stop them if they have money behind them? >> money talks, right? if you don't want this guy to win and you've got the koch brothers and you have adelson there, that's why they have a pac, right? >> that worked well for romney. here is the deal money can't buy you, authenticity. >> they're authentic, i hate to tell you. they're the real thing. >> they're authentic to the point where -- if you're authentic in your irrationality, great. you'll appeal to the irrational people. but when this guy says the earth was formed -- hold on. when the earth was formed 9,000 years ago and we started farming 10,000 years ago, it's insane. >> we have to come back to the fact that they have a base, that people like this have been elected. >> exactly. they have been. >> you know, i look at mourdock, he won. i like at akin,
you're karl rove. not a good guy necessarily, but a smart guy. you're haley barbour. you're chris christie, one of these thoughtful people in the republican party you can argue. how are you going to stop these people from running if fay want to? >> cash. >> how do you stop them if they have money behind them? >> money talks, right? if you don't want this guy to win and you've got the koch brothers and you have adelson there, that's why they have a pac, right? >> that...
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and to oust big government establishment republicans led by karl rove. that's right. even though americans rejected the tea party agenda last fall, they won't be silenced. and glenn beck is leading the charge. >> i think the republicans have betrayed their own values for so long. and there's a lot of people like me that tried to push the republican party into maybe, hey, why don't you have some common sense here. >> wow. nothing says common sense like glenn beck. right? >> i am sure that the republicans will become less and less relevant as every day that goes by. they're becoming if not already the wig party. they were saying we're the ones that have to become more moderate. are you kidding me? >> don't worry. the tea party folks are making sure the republicans don't become more moderate. any time soon. just look at the lineup at this year's cpac. there's rick santorum. he's writing for the blog that thinks obama is a muslim kenyon. allen west. he saw communist in congress. rand paul. he thinks health care is slavery. and of course sarah palin, the momma grizzly is c
and to oust big government establishment republicans led by karl rove. that's right. even though americans rejected the tea party agenda last fall, they won't be silenced. and glenn beck is leading the charge. >> i think the republicans have betrayed their own values for so long. and there's a lot of people like me that tried to push the republican party into maybe, hey, why don't you have some common sense here. >> wow. nothing says common sense like glenn beck. right? >> i...
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>> you're talking about karl rove? >> i'm talking about karl rove. >> that is, it seems to me, john heilemann, a good question to ask. you go to karl rove, a guy that just got pasted in this last election. i know karl, i like karl. >> part of the past 20 years. >> he got pasted, and also some conservatives brought up, he was part of the bush administration that people like peg -- i'll say it peggy noonan, myself, others think destroyed the conservative movement by spending us into record debt. >> and you're seeing, you know, the immediate reaction among some parts of the conservative movement, parts of the tea party, more populist part of the party, attacking the group, saying that he's the karl rove and his allies, they have a bad record to run on and that they're deviating from the principles of true conservatism and they want to back sellouts. i think the main thing you're going to see over the course of this next cycle is a further deepening of the schism between the two kind of pieces of the republican party. the
>> you're talking about karl rove? >> i'm talking about karl rove. >> that is, it seems to me, john heilemann, a good question to ask. you go to karl rove, a guy that just got pasted in this last election. i know karl, i like karl. >> part of the past 20 years. >> he got pasted, and also some conservatives brought up, he was part of the bush administration that people like peg -- i'll say it peggy noonan, myself, others think destroyed the conservative movement by...
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karl rove wants to keep the fringies. and things like clinton did with school uniforms. and tell college students the jobs might be tough. what about the gun issue? should the republicans stick with the nra or tell wayne lapierre to get a real job? how could a party built other the decades on the people who left the democrats abandon those issues that attracted the rule south and the west people and the miners and the ranchers and the gun owners. and the people furious about immigration. how do you ban those people and keep a party? tonight an expert, a passionate believer that politics can get better. my colleague joe scarborough. here's the question. how do you keep this huge tent the republican party has built in the last 30 or 40 years with people from the south, the west, the miners, the ranchers, the religious right, all those people that have decided the republican party is their natural home and yet you have people in the fringe costing you your image. >> well, you've got to stand up to people on the fringe. you know, when parties go extreme they get roundly defe
karl rove wants to keep the fringies. and things like clinton did with school uniforms. and tell college students the jobs might be tough. what about the gun issue? should the republicans stick with the nra or tell wayne lapierre to get a real job? how could a party built other the decades on the people who left the democrats abandon those issues that attracted the rule south and the west people and the miners and the ranchers and the gun owners. and the people furious about immigration. how do...
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. >>> plus the pack men, karl rove's new plan to pour cold water on the tea party and keep senate seats in the republican column. today's politics planner, as you can see, former president clinton will be speaking at ed koch's funeral, president obama is off to minneapolis and chris christie hits letterman. [ male announcer ] let's say you pay your guy around 2% to manage your money. that's not much, you think. except it's 2% every year. go to e-trade and find out how much our advice and guidance costs. spoiler alert: it's low. it's guidance on your terms, not ours. e-trade. less for us. more for you. more "likes." more tweets. so, beginning today, my son brock and his whole team will be our new senior social media strategists. any questions? since we make radiator valves wouldn't it be better if we just let fedex help us to expand to new markets? hmm gotta admit that's better than a few "likes." i don't have the door code. who's that? he won a contest online to be ceo for the day. how am i supposed to run a business here without an office?! [ male announcer ] fast, reliable deliveries
. >>> plus the pack men, karl rove's new plan to pour cold water on the tea party and keep senate seats in the republican column. today's politics planner, as you can see, former president clinton will be speaking at ed koch's funeral, president obama is off to minneapolis and chris christie hits letterman. [ male announcer ] let's say you pay your guy around 2% to manage your money. that's not much, you think. except it's 2% every year. go to e-trade and find out how much our advice...
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>> he was having -- eric was having these war of words are karl rove and the tea party said karl rove is an elitist and he's out of touch. where are they? they're right in the middle. my main point is this is not what fox does. fox news is not designed to air out public hearings about what is the true meaning of conservativism. it is not, you know, this sort of open forum where everyone gets their point of view. fox news is designed to, as a heat seeking missle to smear democrats. that's how they get their good ratings, short term programming. that's their sort of dna. i don't think fox is going to be doing a very good job in navigating a civil war because that's not what their viewers are interested in. but there's already rumblings on the right. the tea party with fox's close association with karl rove and how they allow this -- you know, this symbol of the republican elite to always be on fox and trash the tea party. so they -- you know, they are caught in the middle. >> stephanie: right. >> i don't think navigating it is going to do them any good. >> stephanie: it is like a right
>> he was having -- eric was having these war of words are karl rove and the tea party said karl rove is an elitist and he's out of touch. where are they? they're right in the middle. my main point is this is not what fox does. fox news is not designed to air out public hearings about what is the true meaning of conservativism. it is not, you know, this sort of open forum where everyone gets their point of view. fox news is designed to, as a heat seeking missle to smear democrats. that's...
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one person who liked cantor's speech was karl rove. he promoted it on twitter as it was all unfolding. bob, is rove trying to become the architect of the party again? and of course he is going at it on the right-wingers as well. >> well, he doesn't have much choice, you know. he set up this new effort in american crossroads to try to influence gop primaries. and i'm not in the business of defending karl rove. but if i could take a leaf from gene robinson's book and say this is a kind of step that makes sense if you want to elect republicans. but the problem is with the dominance of the tea party types, the religious right, and a lot of these states you're going to see more republican nominees who are going to lose winnable races. rove wants to change that, although he is the one who contributed to creating it at almost every level over a long period of years. >> eugene robinson, bob shrum, great to have you on the program tonight. thank you so much for joining us. >>> remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the scr
one person who liked cantor's speech was karl rove. he promoted it on twitter as it was all unfolding. bob, is rove trying to become the architect of the party again? and of course he is going at it on the right-wingers as well. >> well, he doesn't have much choice, you know. he set up this new effort in american crossroads to try to influence gop primaries. and i'm not in the business of defending karl rove. but if i could take a leaf from gene robinson's book and say this is a kind of...
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entitled karl rove is done. reads in part this. now comes the likes of senators such as ted cruz of texas and rand paul of ken tuck tow challenge him. smart, angry and aspect establishment conservatives who loathe the country club types and want to remake the parties in the isolationist in the antisocial welfare and anti-tax image, conservatives have the right to ask the roves of the world to ask what the gopers have done to limit the reach of government and enhance the libertarian view of the world. the answer to the rand pauls of the world is nothing. >> that was a long paragraph. >> and you take a guy like ted cruise, he went it a community college in texas or was it harvard? this rove ad suggests quite a few things. mitch mcconnell is concerned about ashley judd. >> he is concerned in general. he is a power here in washington and who i covered back when he was county judge in louisville. he has never been wildly popular in the state. he always had a tough race even when he hasn't had significant opponents and he's on a fault li
entitled karl rove is done. reads in part this. now comes the likes of senators such as ted cruz of texas and rand paul of ken tuck tow challenge him. smart, angry and aspect establishment conservatives who loathe the country club types and want to remake the parties in the isolationist in the antisocial welfare and anti-tax image, conservatives have the right to ask the roves of the world to ask what the gopers have done to limit the reach of government and enhance the libertarian view of the...
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and two, i want to know how much money is karl rove himself making off of these pacs? you know he doesn't work for nothing. i'll bet he gets 10% of every dollar he raises. come on, karl! tell us the truth. how much money are you pocketing off of these super pacs? folks, go out and have a great day. we'll see you right back here again tomorrow. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: who is our first caller today? oh, she gets a sherry's berries gift card -- oh no you are not a caller. you are here every day. good morning, jacki schechner. >> i want a sherry's berries gift card. >> stephanie: hey, john kasick just undouched himself. he is going to accept the obama medicare medicaid expansion. >> amazing. i love when governors and lawmakers do things that actually benefit the citizens of they state. >> stephanie: right. the only reason not to do it jacki is you are a douche. >> pretty much. and you want to be like rick scott. >> stephanie: it's a technical term, douche. here she is jacki schechner health care geek of the current news center. >> good morning, everybody, presi
and two, i want to know how much money is karl rove himself making off of these pacs? you know he doesn't work for nothing. i'll bet he gets 10% of every dollar he raises. come on, karl! tell us the truth. how much money are you pocketing off of these super pacs? folks, go out and have a great day. we'll see you right back here again tomorrow. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: who is our first caller today? oh, she gets a sherry's berries gift card -- oh no you are not a caller. you are...
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. >> john, these audits are taking place across washington, crossroads, karl rove's group, is doing the same thing. what will they do differently this time around after some of the failures of 2012? >> both groups are fascinated by the success of president obama's re-election and in general the superior effort that democrats have had in identifying voters and mobilizing those voters to turn out. so that's a similarity. where they're in conflict is the root cause. karl rove's groups think the problem, they had too many unelectable candidates, too many extreme canned dates, too many fringe candidates. the koch brothers believe the success of the republican party and the conservative movement really is coming from the grass roots, not the washington establishment. so we're going to see these two financial engines of the republican party really at otdo with each other over the next couple years. >> john, it's dan senor. >> hey, dan. >> how much is the problem that one of the challenges facing the republican party is the ability to organize on the ground, technologically but also knocking on
. >> john, these audits are taking place across washington, crossroads, karl rove's group, is doing the same thing. what will they do differently this time around after some of the failures of 2012? >> both groups are fascinated by the success of president obama's re-election and in general the superior effort that democrats have had in identifying voters and mobilizing those voters to turn out. so that's a similarity. where they're in conflict is the root cause. karl rove's groups...
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and you know you are in an alternate universe when karl rove is the voice of reason. >> i think the superintendent a thief. he is stealing from our kids. >> and i believe that you are an idiot. >> stephanie: this is the hyperbole that we have gotten to. >> it's incredible. i remember sitting in shock when one of the house members called the president a liar to his face. but that's the kind of world we're in at this point. >> stephanie: i think the look on nancy pelosi's face said it all. but like i was saying with gerrymandering, i'm not sure how we get out of this. i would like to think -- do you have any hope in 2014 that we would be able to gain some leverage at least? >> absolutely. if they continue down this path of repeated economic crises the americans are going to respond and rebel against this, and it didn't work for them when they did it in '94, it is not going to work now, but it's an awful price for the country to pay. i would hope they got the message in the last election. they lost the presidential race lost seats in the senate and house, and they are walking away like they won the e
and you know you are in an alternate universe when karl rove is the voice of reason. >> i think the superintendent a thief. he is stealing from our kids. >> and i believe that you are an idiot. >> stephanie: this is the hyperbole that we have gotten to. >> it's incredible. i remember sitting in shock when one of the house members called the president a liar to his face. but that's the kind of world we're in at this point. >> stephanie: i think the look on nancy...
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. >> a lot better record than karl rove had. >> that's true. 1% or 1.29%? >> bill: i think about 1% return he got on his money for his investors. >> right. >> bill: he lost, i think, twell out of 13 senate races he was in or something like that. the number may be off a little bit. you had a great year for progressives, and, also, i thought the president made a great pitch for progressive agenda last night following up on the inaugural address in the state of the union. we have been talking about it this morning. want to get your take. there are a couple of clips we haven't played yet that he talked about, including on the war in afghanistan, ending the war, war and bringing half of our troops home by this time next year. >> tonight, i can announce that over the next year, another 34,000 american troops will come home from afghanistan. this draw-down will continue. by the end of next year, our war in afghanistan will be over. [applause.] >> bill: so with that with universal pre-school education with raising the minimum wage to 9 bucks plus, you know, more on
. >> a lot better record than karl rove had. >> that's true. 1% or 1.29%? >> bill: i think about 1% return he got on his money for his investors. >> right. >> bill: he lost, i think, twell out of 13 senate races he was in or something like that. the number may be off a little bit. you had a great year for progressives, and, also, i thought the president made a great pitch for progressive agenda last night following up on the inaugural address in the state of the...